Experience 101
Clinton - How She "Opened the Borders of Kosovo"

1996 Clinton Bosnia Trip (CBS News)

Hillary Clinton's 1996 trip to Bosnia is at the center of a dispute over her statements that her plane came under sniper fire. This report by Sharyl Attkisson makes no mention of dangerous conditions. (CBSNews.com)

During her speech at George Washington University on March 17th 2008, Hillary Clinton described the dangers she faced during her trip to Bosnia, where she was met with immediate sniper fire and forced to race to safety. Video footage of her arrival there in 1996 clearly shows how harrowing this experience was for the former first lady.

Bill Clinton Also Lies About Hillary's Bosnia Trip

Not content to "let sleeping dogs lie", Bill Clinton has once again brought Hillary's phony Bosnia claims to the forefront by repeatedly lying about the circumstances of both the trip and Hillary's multiple references to it, just as she was beginning to put the "misstatement" behind her. He claims she mentioned it only "once" despite repeated references documented by news crews. He also claimed she'd made the single reference at 11 pm when she was exhausted - even though the comments were actually made in morning speeches.

Hillary Clinton actually made the exaggerated comments numerous times, including at an event in Dubuque, Iowa on Dec. 29th, in Waco, TX on Feb. 29th, and twice -- bright and early in the morning -- on March 17.

CBS News producer Ryan Corsaro, who covers Senator Clinton, reports she made the claim in mid-morning on St. Patrick’s Day. Bill Clinton also said the trip was in 1995 when, in fact, it was 1996.

CBS also has aired videotape of the senator making the claim on at least two other occasions. The Eleanor Roosevelt claim also has been questioned, since Pat Nixon traveled to Vietnam in 1969.

Sen. Clinton did not apologize, as Mr. Clinton asserted. His wife did say she had made a mistake and said that she had misspoken when describing the Bosnia incident.

Sen. Clinton also wasn't as quick with her apology as President Clinton may remember either. In fact, it took a week for her to eventually correct herself, first talking to the Philadelphia Inquirer editorial board on March 24 and again the following day in Greensboro, N.C.

President Clinton then later in the evening told the story again in Jasper, Ind., saying the press was treating his wife like the Mata Hari. "She took a terrible beating in the press for a few days because she was exhausted at 11 o'clock at night and she started talking about Bosnia and she misstated the circumstances under which she landed in Bosnia.  Did you all see all that?  And oh, they acted like she was practically Mata Hari - like she was making up all this stuff."

During his "official conversation" with Clinton, Bosnian President Egupt Ganic also recalls receiving "an impression that she had an agenda for her own advancement".

... and later

Clinton's Pilot in Bosnia Tells His Side of the Story

 

In 1996, Retired Colonel William "Goose" Changose flew Hillary Clinton to Bosnia. He says he performed no evasive manuevers during landing, and that there were "no bullets flying around."

Colonel Hunt Says Clinton Lied

Former Colonel David Hunt, who was in Bosnia when Hillary Clinton visited the country, says she lied about her trip there, and that candidates should not embellish their experiences.

Clinton "On the Record" with Van Susteren

Last night (Mar. 26, 2008), Hillary Clinton was interviewed
by Greta Van Susteren on Fox News.

More on Clinton's Bosnia Trip

This video by an Obama supporter, contrasts Hillary Clinton's comments last week about her Bosnia trip with newsclips from the 1990s reporting on her trip. The pictures seem to tell a different story.

 

From the Fact Check Desk:
Former President Bill Clinton's Defense of His Wife's Bosnia Sniper-Fire Story

April 10, 2008 9:35 PM

Former President Bill Clinton offered this bit of revisionist history of his wife's Bosnia story in Jasper, Ind., today, one riddled with a veritable sniper fire of errors -- ones necessitating footnotes.

Watch the former President's misstatement-riddled explanation for his wife HERE.

"She took a terrible beating in the press for a few days," he said, per ABC News' Sarah Amos, "because she was exhausted at 11 o'clock at night (1) and she started talking about Bosnia and she misstated the circumstances under which she landed in Bosnia. (2)

"Did you all see all that? And oh, they acted like she was practically Mata Hari," he said -- referring to the Dutch exotic dancer accused by the French of spying for the Germans and executed by a firing squad during World War I -- "like she was making up all this stuff.

"And then the president of Bosnia said, 'Well, it was quite dangerous when she came, there were snipers in the hills all around,' (3) And then Gen. Wes Clarke, who was there trying to make the peace among the Bosnians, said 'Yeah, it was dangerous, let me remind you three of the Americans who were on my peace-keeping team were killed because they had to take a dangerous road 'cause they couldn't go the regular way.'

"And she had to go up into the cockpit with our daughter, in a bullet-proof area, and all the other people had to sit on their bullet-proof flak jackets (4) because it was dangerous.  So she immediately (5) said 'OK, I misremembered that, they didn't cancel the welcoming ceremony, but it was pretty dangerous.' "

In Boonville, Ind., also today, he told a different version, saying his wife, "one time late at night (1) when she was exhausted, she misstated and immediately (5) apologized (6) for it, what happened to her in Bosnia in 1995. (7) Did y'all see all that? Oh, they blew it up. Let me just tell you.

"The president of Bosnia and Gen. Wesley Clark -- who was there making peace where we'd lost three peacekeepers who had to ride on a dangerous mountain road because it was too dangerous to go the regular, safe way -- both defended her because they pointed out that when her plane landed in Bosnia, she had to go up to the bulletproof part of the plane, in the front. Everybody else had to put their flak jackets underneath the seat (4) in case they got shot at. And everywhere they went they were covered by Apache helicopters.

"So they just abbreviated the arrival ceremony. Now I say that because what really has mattered is that even then she was interested in our troops. And I think she was the first First Lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone. (8) And you woulda thought, you know, that she'd robbed a bank the way they carried on about this."

(1) Her most glaringly wrong telling of the tale, on March 17, 2008, was in the morning.
(2) She actually told versions of the story several times. (And none was at night.)
(3) In an e-mail to journalist Eric Jansson, former acting Bosnian president Ejup Ganic said "we didn't expect snipers," though, "we still believed that some positions on the hills were occupied by radical Serbs, so I was worried about the overall safety."
(4) Not according to the pilot Colonel William "Goose" Changose (Ret.), who said, "nobody under my watch has ever directed anyone to sit on their flak jackets. ... We do not direct people to sit on their flak jackets."
(5) It wasn't immediate at all -- it was 11 days later, first in an editorial board meeting with the Philadelphia Inquirer/Philadelphia Daily News, then later in a press availability.
(6) She never apologized.
(7) It was 1996, not 1995.
(8) He qualified it with "I think," but then-first lady Pat Nixon went to a combat zone in Saigon, Vietnam, in July 1969.

- ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper, April 10, 2008

Hillary's Adventures Abroad

Photo of Hillary Clinton
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In a March 5 interview on CNN, Clinton said that she "negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo." Clinton is referring to her May 14, 1999, trip to Macedonia, which shares a border with Kosovo. According to her Web site, Clinton "traveled to the international border on the edge of the war zone" before meeting with Macedonia’s president and prime minister.

We note, first, that Clinton’s claim that the refugee camp was "on the edge of a war zone" gives an exaggerated picture of the risk involved. Traveling to the Kosovo border was more dangerous than remaining in Washington, and the trip did involve some risk. But Clinton did not land in the middle of an active combat zone, and the risks that she did take were not exceptional: Prior visitors to the refugee camp included Richard Gere and Bianca Jagger. For that matter, much of the "war" in Kosovo consisted of NATO airstrikes against the Yugoslav troops who had forced thousands of ethnic Albanians to flee Kosovo, and the nearest NATO ground troops were deployed in Albania, more than 100 miles away from Clinton.


More significantly, Clinton did not in fact "negotiate on matters such as opening borders for refugees during the war in Kosovo."
Macedonia had reopened its border to Kosovar refugees the day before Clinton’s arrival, as has been widely reported. Clinton now says that she pressed for opening the borders "much wider." In a written statement that the Clinton campaign has circulated widely, Holbrooke, the Clinton administration’s chief negotiator on peace in the Balkans, says that there is "no doubt" that Hillary Clinton's actions saved lives.

So how much "pressing" did Clinton actually do? According to her official travel schedule, Clinton was in Macedonia for less than nine hours, nearly half of which she spent touring refugee camps. Clinton was scheduled for photo ops with the prime minister at the residence of the U.S. ambassador at 2:20 p.m. At 2:50 p.m., she had a photo session with Macedonia’s president at his residence, followed by a 3:20 photo op with the first lady. That would leave a total of 30 minutes for negotiations, minus time for photos. Indeed, at the time, the New York Times reported that Clinton’s trip was so scripted that "Administration officials chose which refugees Mrs. Clinton would speak with." News reports on Clinton's own Web site characterize the first lady's visit as "sweeping through Macedonia" offering "publicity" and "aid."

Hillary's Adventures Abroad, FactCheck.org, Mar. 13, 2008

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Bosnia's former president recalls Hillary visit
By Eric Jansson